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Date: Sep 3 1:30 AM, 2019
RE: Comparisons between the first and second TV productions ?
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The new series does pick up on some clues from TSFTS and use them. The most obvious is the passing reference made to Cary having to prevent George from a couple of unwise speculations, and that George was quite bereaved by Elizabeth's death. Unfortunately, DH has taken these mild clues and blown them up with her overdramatic imagination. She seems unable to do subtlety in her storylines, instead she has to almost throw George from a cliff in his grief!



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I have only seen a very few episodes of the 1970s series, and those within the last 10 years.  Of course it is very dated to watch now, but Robin Ellis was a perfect choice for Ross - he dominated the scenes because he had the correct stature, build and looks.  Demelza was all wrong in every particular.  I thought Jud was better in 1970s version but still cannot understand why both series left out the Gimletts.  

They are the only reason Ross would leave Nampara, knowing it would be in safe hands.

With the most recent adaptation, like many others, I had high hopes.  The very first episode was so confusing I don't know how anyone who hadn't read the books could sort out what was going on!  Everything was fine until series 2, then the characters were modernised and altered so much. I haven't followed the rest of the series except to watch the first episode of this latest 'offering'.  Then I wished I hadn't bothered.  

If you read SFTS, there are clues aplenty of what happened in those 'missing' ten years.  They were quite settled, family times, interspersed by Ross' trips abroad, on behalf of the government, but on the whole I have always thought of them as being happy times.  Perhaps that is why DH ignored all that and wrote her own story.  It was not exciting enough for her. I am reminded of the saying, 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it".  Perhaps it would have been better to leave well alone.

If  writers are entrusted with producing a TV series with such fantastic material as WG wrote, are they incapable of following the proper storyline?  Do their egos get in the way of telling the true story or do they think we, the punters, wouldn't be happy with something without constant cliff-hangers and injections of unrealistic drama?  

Slow radio and TV are becoming popular.  RP is quite slow and really entraps the reader by its wonderful descriptions. As a teenager, long before the TV series, I was hooked from just reading the Prologue.

I have a friend who turns to a particular book when she is unwell, or is in need of some escape.  RP is just such a book.

No matter how many series are made or adapted, I still prefer conjuring up the characters in my own imagination to anything else.  As you might guess, I don't watch much TV at all...

 

Mrs G

 



-- Edited by Mrs Gimlett on Saturday 31st of August 2019 04:58:25 PM

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Fijane wrote:

Like Mrs Enys, I think the major disappointment of both series has been how the writer's felt that they could "improve" on one of the most beloved characters WG wrote. I don't know the motivation for the first series making Demelza seem immoral, but the 2015 Demelza is very clearly a product of modern feminism, and therefore does great damage to her marriage and distorts Ross's personality, which book Demelza would never have done.

However, to choose is easy for me, as I could not continue with the Robin Ellis version after about four episodes. I have loved many parts of the new series, including most of the casting (including Eleanor Tomlinson, who is a great actress, but took the character in the wrong direction). But there are flaws in the new series, especially evident for me, as it has run alongside Outlander. The cheapness in production has been  clear in comparison (e.g. crowd scenes with less than ten extras) and lack of attention to historical detail.

Still, I just love a historical drama brought to life, and the books are so entrenched in my psyche that they cannot be corrupted by other's interpretation.


 Fijane - I agree with all you say about both series. The first series - 1970 - I gave up on early on because I couldn't understand a word Prudie and Jud said. I have been urged to watch series 2 of the 1970s version although the same problem is there. I watched this after I had watched series 1 and 2 of the latest one. Like you, I prefer the 2015 onwards series although there are many flaws and the distortion of the characters is only one. As you say, the inadequate funding of all the series is clear - many mistakes remained even after editing. However, considering the low budget from the BBC, it was a good overall production. The costumes were excellent and the chosen venues in Cornwall inspirational. I am sad that the final series is so dreadful - such a pity to end in this way. 

 



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Like Mrs Enys, I think the major disappointment of both series has been how the writer's felt that they could "improve" on one of the most beloved characters WG wrote. I don't know the motivation for the first series making Demelza seem immoral, but the 2015 Demelza is very clearly a product of modern feminism, and therefore does great damage to her marriage and distorts Ross's personality, which book Demelza would never have done.

However, to choose is easy for me, as I could not continue with the Robin Ellis version after about four episodes. I have loved many parts of the new series, including most of the casting (including Eleanor Tomlinson, who is a great actress, but took the character in the wrong direction). But there are flaws in the new series, especially evident for me, as it has run alongside Outlander. The cheapness in production has been  clear in comparison (eg crowd scenes with less than ten extras) and lack of attention to historical detail.

Still, I just love a historical drama brought to life, and the books are so entrenched in my psyche that they cannot be corrupted by other's interpretation.



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My opinion on this has changed over the years. My interest in Poldark was initiated by the first adaptation . I didnt watch it but I knew it was popular and I came across the books at a friends house. I started reading mid book for some reason but became quickly hooked and the rest, as they say, is history. That first series was quickly repeated and then I watched it, and enjoyed it. i was making my way through the books at the same time as the second series aired and again enjoyed it. For the next ten years I read and re read the books, enjoying them more and more and really getting to know the story well. Then the series was released on video and I bought each episode as soon as they were released . I was , however, horrified by the major changes to the story, especially to Demelza. I thought and still do think that Robin Ellis is perfect as Ross. I didnt care for Angharad Rees version of Demelza, though now I appreciate she captured  Demelza wit and sense of mischief. The second series  was so much better and followed the books almost perfectly. 

I always hoped another adaptation would be made, it was long overdue and I had great hopes for the 2015 series. It started well and I was delighted to see a more faithful creation , at least of the beginning of Ross and Demelzas relationship. For me, it all started to go wrong from series 2 and ive been very disappointed in many of the changes that DH has made but especially saddened (again) by the way Demelza has been portrayed. For me, neither of the adaptations have got Demelza right, neither physically or in character. 



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Of the two TV Poldark productions the first in the Seventies up to Book 7 and the current one, allowing for obvious technological differences which do you now prefer the most and why ?



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