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Mrs Enys wrote:

This is what worried me when I realised that this series was going to be based on DH imaginings of the ten year gap between books. I was concerned she would skew the storyline and therefore influence any future adaptation of the remaining books.

Morwenna deliberately left her infant son with his grandmother and had no wish to see him again. It wasnt easy for her to do that but she knew he would be brought up to follow in his fathers footsteps and any attempt by her to influence his character would be forbidden by lady whitWorth. She would never have attempted to see John Conan as it would have been futile and She had already decided that part of her life was over and to move forward required no looking back. This silly storyline that DH has contrived will now make a mockery of any future adaptation showing Morwenna shocked and repulsed by the sudden meeting with her 15 year old son. 


 Mrs Enys - you are right about Morwenna meeting her 15 year old son and her reaction and also about all the changes to the books that would catch up with Debbie Horsfield's changes. I do not think there will be any more Poldark series from Mammoth so if anyone wants to create the Poldarks again they would need to start  from the beginning. I do wonder if it is asking too much of actors to play these roles for 7 or 8 years. The only solution is to have new actors after The Angry Tide. 



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This is what worried me when I realised that this series was going to be based on DH imaginings of the ten year gap between books. I was concerned she would skew the storyline and therefore influence any future adaptation of the remaining books.

Morwenna deliberately left her infant son with his grandmother and had no wish to see him again. It wasnt easy for her to do that but she knew he would be brought up to follow in his fathers footsteps and any attempt by her to influence his character would be forbidden by lady whitWorth. She would never have attempted to see John Conan as it would have been futile and She had already decided that part of her life was over and to move forward required no looking back. This silly storyline that DH has contrived will now make a mockery of any future adaptation showing Morwenna shocked and repulsed by the sudden meeting with her 15 year old son. 



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Hi, can someone tell me how is Morwenna's character in the books over her son John Connan? Because as I can remember she disliked/hated him.

She sort of had a panic attack when she saw him at a party in Trenwith.

 

So I don't know if I understood it well.



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Stella,

Exactly like all the other seasons - just enough loveliness and good scenes to keep me happy. 



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Little Henry wrote:

I have been watching a good number of fairly long clips from the new series and I think I must disconnect this series from WG's Poldark.  There is simply no book, no dialogue, from WG. It is all fiction and not WGs.  Ned Despard may have existed but I'm pretty sure he didn't know Ross Poldark so all this must distort his real life.  I fear the whole series is about him and why make him such a major character when he and his wife are so like R and D.  There never was enough about the gap years in the last books to make a series.   I wonder who amongst us would have imagined George as he is in this series.  Thank heavens it's only 2 years of the gap time.  Have to watch it though.


 Little Henry - I think the first two episodes, which set the scene for this series, were dreadful. The third episode, which I watched yesterday, was, in contrast, rather lovely even though it came from no book.  I shall continue to watch series 5 for what it is and it is possible I shall enjoy it. I did not expect to be writing this but rather to be far more critical. If it's WG you want don't watch it but you may find that from episode 3 onwards it can be entertaining



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I have been watching a good number of fairly long clips from the new series and I think I must disconnect this series from WG's Poldark.  There is simply no book, no dialogue, from WG. It is all fiction and not WGs.  Ned Despard may have existed but I'm pretty sure he didn't know Ross Poldark so all this must distort his real life.  I fear the whole series is about him and why make him such a major character when he and his wife are so like R and D.  There never was enough about the gap years in the last books to make a series.   I wonder who amongst us would have imagined George as he is in this series.  Thank heavens it's only 2 years of the gap time.  Have to watch it though.



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We are just a handful of people who are just too loyal to the Poldark books and to Winston Graham. When you try to say to other people the series is not as the books, and you say to others in capital letters you ruined the show by not following the books, the people treat you like a dumb headed person. They say it's based on the books, but if it is based on the books why isn't there John and Jane Gimlett? Can you believe someone said Ned Despard is real Google it! I know pretty well Ned did exist but there weren't any mention of him in the later books. This whole forum is like non-existent to other people, they just assume Debbie Horsfield did a great job, and done the series so good it's almost better than to listen to an audiobook of Poldark or "to waste your time reading the books". So please don't be hard on me, I'm just to the limit of this cliff staring dramedy.

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Has anyone noticed that the ages of the children are not right. Jeremy looks younger than Clowance! confuse The first two episodes hit us with many characters that are not in any of the books. I am trying to disconnect this series in my mind from anything else Poldark but it's impossible. Having now watched 2 episodes  I shall continue with it but it makes me angry that DH has been allowed to produce this series. I am hoping that Ned Despard gets killed off very soon even though he is a good man.



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ModernPoldark,

Your post reminded me that I first watched the original series in the 1970's with my mother and sister (I was the only one with the right channel).  We were completely ignorant of the books but we all thoroughly enjoyed it.  I only know now after reading the books that it was "wrong" in many ways.  The memory of that time was what made me watch the new series and I realized that the only things I really remembered were the family getting together, and Ross and Demelza.  I watch it alone now (happily) as my mother has passed on and my sister won't watch it because she enjoyed the first one so much.  I'll always be grateful that the new series brought me to the books so long after I had first watched it.  In the years to come I'll probably remember the sharing of opinions and feelings with the Poldark Society.  But I'll always be glad of people enjoying Poldark in any form even though I, too, am cringing at some of the things I'm hearing.



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As you may have read from my topic entitled "horrified" I was not in a positive frame of mind about DH's series five. I have resisted commenting so far, thinking I would give the series a chance.

I had to watch episode one twice to get a clear picture of what is going on, the character links etc I did enjoy the episode better second time around. However, I am still disappointed....

The plot line and characters are just too 'set up', and I too am surprised it was sanctioned by Andrew Graham.

I did post my views on Twitter, but not everyone seemed to understand, bar a few fellow traditionalists. 

I will continue to watch series five, but I will always regret that the DH was sanctioned to write her own version of the Poldark saga.



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ModernPoldark wrote:

Oh my goodness, after I saw the second episode of season five, I cringed and I'm still cringing. Everything is just wrong. The saddest part is my brother and mom didn't read the books so they think DH did a "great job" and honestly I think she butchered the whole works of Winston Graham. I'm sort of forced to watch the show, because it's when we have your family time. It's a pity that there isn't a good honest YouTube or even a Facebook book vs. show review, so that everyone can see the series is absolutely not the same as the books.


 Welcome Modern Poldark. You are far from being alone. As far as I can see the majority of people who have watched the first two episodes are very critical of them. UK newspapers are writing against this series too. 



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Oh my goodness, after I saw the second episode of season five, I cringed and I'm still cringing. Everything is just wrong. The saddest part is my brother and mom didn't read the books so they think DH did a "great job" and honestly I think she butchered the whole works of Winston Graham. I'm sort of forced to watch the show, because it's when we have your family time. It's a pity that there isn't a good honest YouTube or even a Facebook book vs. show review, so that everyone can see the series is absolutely not the same as the books.

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Mrs Gimlett wrote:

I decided to have a look on iplayer at the first episode of series 5.

Not entirely sure why I bothered - what is Andrew Graham thinking of to allow this to happen?  I always thought a series written entirely by DH would be a liability compared with the brilliant books, but this is just ill thought out and inaccurate for the times it is meant to portray, so far as the Poldark family and Cornwall is concerned.  I could never understand why Dwight was introduced as having fought with Ross in America; WGs version was so much more plausible and gave opportunity for him and Ross to get to know each other around the story of Keren.  Now another character has emerged from Ross' American past - it's all so unnecessary in my opinion.  As for the rest of the hour...

Yes, there was a degree of unrest amongst the miners, but never to the extent of arson and civil unrest. 

Needless to say I shall not be bothering with any further episodes.  My imagination can fill in those 'missing' ten years quite adequately.

Back to the old volumes for me...

Mrs G


 Mrs G - I understand how you feel. I am watching this series but I never stop reading the books. Right now I am re-reading 'The Black Moon'. Each time I re-read a book I find things I have missed in previous readings. There are many questions that arise in these books and many of them are not answered.  I think perhaps WG left too much to our imagination.



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I decided to have a look on iplayer at the first episode of series 5.

Not entirely sure why I bothered - what is Andrew Graham thinking of to allow this to happen?  I always thought a series written entirely by DH would be a liability compared with the brilliant books, but this is just ill thought out and inaccurate for the times it is meant to portray, so far as the Poldark family and Cornwall is concerned.  I could never understand why Dwight was introduced as having fought with Ross in America; WGs version was so much more plausible and gave opportunity for him and Ross to get to know each other around the story of Keren.  Now another character has emerged from Ross' American past - it's all so unnecessary in my opinion.  As for the rest of the hour...

Yes, there was a degree of unrest amongst the miners, but never to the extent of arson and civil unrest. 

Needless to say I shall not be bothering with any further episodes.  My imagination can fill in those 'missing' ten years quite adequately.

Back to the old volumes for me...

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Smollett wrote:

Here in Australia we have no screening dates yet. Like many, I'm curious to see how it will unfold. It won't be Winston Graham's vision, well not entirely, so am concerned. Also, like many, I'm glad the wonderful novels are being appreciated once again.


 Smollett - Here is a link to all the start dates  .https://andrew-gower.co.uk/2019/07/17/poldark-s5-international-air-dates/

Australia's screening date is Saturday 17th August - more than a month before the US air date of 29th September.

From what I have read, this season will have almost no connection to the books but there is a thought-provoking exchange between Ross and George in episode 2 (the trailer) which suggests part of this series at least might be interesting.



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Here in Australia we have no screening dates yet. Like many, I'm curious to see how it will unfold. It won't be Winston Graham's vision, well not entirely, so am concerned. Also, like many, I'm glad the wonderful novels are being appreciated once again.

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Little Henry wrote:

Thanks Stella.  As I'm not as excited to see this series as the others, I won't pay to get it.  I did watch Poldarkdish to get the gist of it.  I feel sad that it's not really WG's story.  Hope it's successful though as I like to see Poldark popular and it brings people to the books.


 Little Henry - Like you, I'm not as excited to see this series either and so far it's not looking that good. It's been talked up in the UK more than any other series although I had difficulty following and understanding much of what was going on in the first episode. I share your sadness that it's not based on the work of WG apart from snippets from book 8 which look back to the 10 year gap. Series 5 covers only 2 years - 1800 to 1802 yet DH has already, in episode 1, invented a great deal.  I am amazed that Andrew Graham has associated himself with it. confuse



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Thanks Stella.  As I'm not as excited to see this series as the others, I won't pay to get it.  I did watch Poldarkdish to get the gist of it.  I feel sad that it's not really WG's story.  Hope it's successful though as I like to see Poldark popular and it brings people to the books.



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Little Henry - I am told that catchup t.v. is dead now. A friend of mine in the US is using  transponder.tv but it costs.



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Little Henry wrote:

TV Catchup doesn't seem to be in service anymore so I'll have to wait until the end of September to see the series.  Might catch some of it on youtube I suppose.


 I am sorry to hear this and will look on Facebook to see what people are doing there. The first episode was, in my opinion, far worse than I thought it would be. Which country are you in?



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TV Catchup doesn't seem to be in service anymore so I'll have to wait until the end of September to see the series.  Might catch some of it on youtube I suppose.



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For those who have the time here is a link to the BBC's Media pack for series 5 of Poldark. It is very detailed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/mediapacks/poldark5?fbclid=IwAR1od1B4FXUI0frT3QkDruj7s7zBbBp8Rsz_gqwcn7kByxqlcRQ54_Qh5IU



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Poldark series 5 begins on Sunday 14th July at 9pm on BBC1....

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https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2019-07-07/poldark-series-5-bbc-air-date-cast-plot-rumours/

 

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts-and-culture/a22664475/poldark-season-5/

 

 

 

 






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Little Henry wrote:

Of course it would be the Sunday it would be shown.  Just now I received an email of a preview of Season 5 from PBS and of course it looks very dramatic and exciting.  I'm trying very hard to keep an open mind about the whole thing.  It's just a fact that it's been done and will be forever on film.  While reading SFTS I noted some of the "gap" incidents and hope that they make it into the series.


 I, too have been hoping that at least some of the 'gap' events will be included in the series. Debbie Horsfield has said that series 5 covers a period of 2 years although I think she has has gone into 3 years. To enjoy series 5 I think we shall all need to suspend belief and just take it for how it is, i.e. nothing to do with the books. It is a great pity that the BBC could not continue and do all the books. 



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Of course it would be the Sunday it would be shown.  Just now I received an email of a preview of Season 5 from PBS and of course it looks very dramatic and exciting.  I'm trying very hard to keep an open mind about the whole thing.  It's just a fact that it's been done and will be forever on film.  While reading SFTS I noted some of the "gap" incidents and hope that they make it into the series.



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Little Henry wrote:

Thanks - Although it seems like a new article filled with repeated old articles.  I've heard July 15 may be the date for the U.K. but that may be speculation. PBS won't show it until the end of September so I'll be trying to catch it on "tv catchup" from the BBC.  Even though I didn't like the idea of doing the gap years (although it only covers 1 and a half years) I'll be watching, being idly curious about all things Poldark.  I enjoy the renewed interest in Poldark when the series is on.  I hope it's a good finish to the series.


 Little Henry - It will air on Sunday 14th July in the UK. From what I have read and heard from Debbie Horsfield, it will be going away from the books. It's complicated to explain as it involves a real character, Colonel Despard and his black wife Catherine (Kitty). Kitty was his servant so there are parallels with Ross and Demelza. It is sad that the final series has to be based on material that is not in the books although some of the information in subsequent books which looks back to the 10-year gap has been used I understand. Some will be horrified I have no doubt but if we prepare ourselves for the fact that series 5 will be based very little on the books it may be possible to enjoy it.

Colonel Despard was sent to Jamaica by the government. He was a Ross-like character and set about providing homes for the poor people in Jamaica. He is not liked by the British government and is recalled and imprisoned. Ross gets involved in trying to help him.

Here is a link to more information.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-7187567/Event-goes-scenes-final-series-Poldark.html?fbclid=IwAR3LlxLFlFFlkO8D7i5gk4BBixn-nOn8-0a128n7WRTGpcGSe10s8-41J-Y



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Thanks - Although it seems like a new article filled with repeated old articles.  I've heard July 15 may be the date for the U.K. but that may be speculation. PBS won't show it until the end of September so I'll be trying to catch it on "tv catchup" from the BBC.  Even though I didn't like the idea of doing the gap years (although it only covers 1 and a half years) I'll be watching, being idly curious about all things Poldark.  I enjoy the renewed interest in Poldark when the series is on.  I hope it's a good finish to the series.



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Latest news this morning of final TV series....

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2019-06-28/poldark-series-5-bbc-air-date-cast-plot-rumours/



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