Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Post Info TOPIC: Pets in Poldark


Student

Status: Offline
Posts: 102
Date: Nov 16 12:16 AM, 2018
RE: Pets in Poldark
Permalink  
 


I agree, it makes perfect sense for Horace to have started out as a fashionable accessory. But the question still remains whether Caroline grew truly fond of him over time, or simply found him a very useful accessory, in addition to being fashionable.

As I said, I'm not entirely convinced either way, but if I had to pick one of these options over the other, I think I would go with the latter. Somehow Caroline's feelings for Horace never ring as true as Demelza's for Garrick, or even Lady Harriet's for Castor and Pollux to me. I guess I'm finding Caroline's attitude a bit too patronising to qualify as a true friendship - but perhaps it's just me?



__________________


Honorary Life Member. Forum Moderator

Status: Offline
Posts: 883
Date: Nov 15 9:37 AM, 2018
Permalink  
 

Carrying around a pug, or any other small dog, was very much the fashion at the time.  As Caroline was a fashionable young lady, it seems entirely appropriate she should have have one to fondle and maybe even hide behind in certain circumstances. WG uses Caroline's comments to Horace as a neat way to enlighten the reader about the relationship between herself and Uncle Ray.

Whilst horses, being highly important, were given suitable food along with most farm animals, it appears that proper 'pets' were given whatever their owners were eating at the time.  They were fed with most unsuitable foods, many of which would have considerably shortened the dog's life.  As Dwight said when he first encountered Caroline, dogs are meant to exercise, not be carried around being fed tidbits all the time.

Caroline, for all her common sense, would have followed the fashion in her youth.  When Horaces II and III came along and with Dwight to oversee things, I suspect they were treated more like dogs than the latest must have accessory.



-- Edited by Mrs Gimlett on Thursday 15th of November 2018 09:39:57 AM

__________________


Student

Status: Offline
Posts: 102
Date: Nov 13 10:32 PM, 2018
Permalink  
 

I was wondering about Caroline and Horace. Particularly in the early books she appeared to be going crazy about the dog, but I can't make out if this was genuine or just a pose. What speaks in favour of a true affection is the fact that later on she went on to have a succession of Horaces. What speaks against it is the slightly infantile way in which she treated the dog - spoiling him with sweets and giving him barely any exercise. Surely her hunting and horse riding experience should have taught her a thing or two about how animals function? How come was her normally astute, rational and unsentimental judgement suspended so much in matters regarding Horace?

Any ideas?



__________________


Administration

Status: Offline
Posts: 1774
Date: Nov 7 12:19 PM, 2018
Permalink  
 

Thanks Hollyhock very touching such a sad experience....



__________________

"Perfection is a full stop .... Ever the climbing but never the attaining Of the mountain top." W.G.

 

 



Student

Status: Offline
Posts: 249
Date: Nov 7 11:51 AM, 2018
Permalink  
 

Ross Poldark wrote:

I think it's a bit puzzling that there doesn't appear to be any final mention of Garrick in the books especially as WG owned a dog also called Garrick....confuse


 

When Drake asks Demelza about Garrick in the Loving Cup, they do have this conversation. 

'And Garrick?'

'Oh, that was awful, Drake' ...But that's years ago - did I never write and tell you?...We knew he was very old and not well, but maybe I was thoughtful for other things. One morning I was in here adding up my accounts. You know I really have no head for figures. In he came, lolloping as usual - half expected him to overset some table. But he put his great paw on my arm, and then his head, and I cried; "Oh Garrick, don't do that!" for he would have made my pen hand all drunken. So he stopped and lay down, and I went on adding up my figures. And when they were done, I put down my pen and looked at him - and he was just lying there...'

'Ah ... Too bad.'

'It was too bad,' said Demelza indistinctly; 'it was too bad that the last words he ever heard from me were a reprimand, as if he was not wanted ...'

'I think he would know better'n that.' (104)



-- Edited by Hollyhock on Wednesday 7th of November 2018 08:27:02 PM

__________________


Administration

Status: Offline
Posts: 1774
Date: Nov 7 10:30 AM, 2018
Permalink  
 

I think it's a bit puzzling that there doesn't appear to be any final mention of Garrick in the books especially as WG owned a dog also called Garrick....confuse



__________________

"Perfection is a full stop .... Ever the climbing but never the attaining Of the mountain top." W.G.

 

 



Administration

Status: Offline
Posts: 1774
Date: Nov 7 10:23 AM, 2018
Permalink  
 

Owners and their Household pets thread closed now transferred to here....



__________________

"Perfection is a full stop .... Ever the climbing but never the attaining Of the mountain top." W.G.

 

 



Honorary Life Member. Forum Moderator

Status: Offline
Posts: 883
Date: Nov 5 9:41 AM, 2018
Permalink  
 

One of the oddest pets must surely have been Philbert, the galago, which belonged to Lady Harriet.  I'm guessing it was a bushbaby or something very similar.  I wonder what it was fed on?  Since dogs were given lots of sweetmeats and food we would nowadays reserve only for humans, it is surprising Philbert lived for any length of time.

Another strange bit occurs right at the beginning of book 1.  When Ross finally arrives home on that awful wet and depressing night, to no welcome whatsoever,  in the back kitchen are several dogs, purportedly 'rescued' by Prudie.  How is it, that Jud, a fervent dog-hater allowed her to have them, especially in the house?

1. Caroline and her pug.

2. Demelza and Garrick.

3. Music Thomas and cats

4. Valentine and Butto

5. Lady Harriet and boarhounds etc.

6. Aunt Agatha and Smollett

7. Prudie and her ducklings   (I know this is for household pets but Ross really loved his horses, especially Darkie)

8. Joshua Poldark (and later Ross and his family)--the cat Tabitha Bethia

9. Mark Daniel and the robin he's tamed for Keren

10  John Trevanion and Trixie and Truff

11  Constance Bodruggan and all her dogs which she kept in her house

12. Farquahar, the Nampara Poldarks' English setter spaniel.

13. John Trevaunance had a boarhound that he was feeding biscuits in "Demelza".

14. Dwight admitted to Caroline to having had a dog once.

15.  Feathers, Demelza's kitten in Warleggan.   May have been connected to the cat Demelza rescued after Garrick chased it up a tree. 

16 Frobisher, The last Nampara dog

 



__________________
Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.