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Date: Jul 31 7:10 AM, 2018
RE: Poldark Series 4 Episode 7
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I loved this episode. After last week's being the weakest, this was one of the best of the season. The pacing was so much better and it was nearly completely WG's dialogue. I felt that they did the duel very well and I found myself holding my breath (weird considering I know the scene very well). Elinor was excellent in first showing the excitement of London and then the desolation of all that happened. I am glad they still had her admitting her own fault in the circumstances - I was worried that DH would take that out.

It helped that the start corrected some of my gripes from the last episode. The gorgeous romantic opening scene seemed like the other half of the one left hanging in Ep 6. Then we see Drake getting back to work, and quoting Ross's advice to use work as a cure for heartbreak. Just a small pity that it was a new smithy and not the old, isolated one.

Ellise Chappell was amazing in this episode. It is hard to remember that she seemed a little bland at the start - now she shows all the conflicted emotions of Morwenna.

I also feel that they have really developed George and Elizabeth's story well over this season. It was a bit weird seeing Elizabeth suggesting evicting (moving) the tenants out of George's borough to remove their votes, but it was clever to show how much her personality matched George's (as opposed to Francis or Ross). My only, quite big, gripe was that Elizabeth was far too pregnant-looking. They arrived in London and she was barely showing, then in a matter of weeks she suddenly went to nearly nine months. Considering she is meant to only reach about 7 months, that doesn't make sense. And looking like that, she wouldn't have been out in society - she would have been "confined" for modesty sake. I have already had a non-book friend ask me to explain the timing of the pregnancy after last week, and I think she will be even more confused now. Even Morwenna was too pregnant for a "miscarriage".

But overall, a great episode, and I hope that next week's matches it.



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Date: Jul 26 3:41 PM, 2018
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Stella Poldark wrote:
Little Henry wrote:

I think DH is writing for people who haven't read the books and all the added Ross and Elizabeth scenes are for the audience to wonder if Ross and Elizabeth will eventually get back together.  Is is so unlikely especially in the 1700's that it is not dramatic for me but annoying.  I have just seen the scene where Ross gives George the guineas from Monk A. and George throws them in his face.  It doesn't make sense for Ross to say to Elizabeth "What can I do".  I suppose it is supposed to convey that Ross still cares deeply for Elizabeth and still wants her back.  Perhaps it also explains why Ross constantly says that he married Demelza for her farming skills and not for love.


 Little Henry

You raise a good point about the constant repetition of Ross' explanation for marrying Demelza - which is not in the books that I recall. Neither is the often repeated description of Demelza as a "miner's daughter". Ross tells Demelza he loves only her but then contradicts this by saying he needed someone who could do the mucky work. This aspect spoils all the series for me. It is suggesting that Ross really wanted Elizabeth but she wouldn't have been willing to do the work Demelza did so he had to make do with second best. I am looking forward to returning to the books after the final episode next Sunday.

Rumours about series 5 suggest that Debbie Horsfield will be writing her own series covering the ten year gap between The Angry Tide and The Stranger from the Sea. Aidan Turner has refused to act an older man but he is under contract for a 5th series. It seems that his strange stance is being pandered to. Of course it makes no sense to cover books 8 and 9 as there isn't a satisfactory break off point at the end of The Miller's Dance but an entire series of nothing but DH's ideas does not fill me with enthusiasm.


 I do hope series 5 is not about filling the ten year gap, ild be very disapointed and actually angry if The BBC do use this technique. Ild be astonished if Andrew Graham consented to his Fathers story and characters  being plagiarised in this way. 

I also dont think any tv production company would be held to ransom by any actor , no matter how popular. The original actors who played  Ross and Demelza found that out! There are always other actors willing to take on a part and if the production company are clever enough, they pick another up and coming bunch of actors to create the new roles. 



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Date: Jul 26 1:03 AM, 2018
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I hope it's just a rumour.  If the final books don't get filmed now who knows when they ever would be, however many they cover.



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Date: Jul 25 11:44 PM, 2018
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Little Henry wrote:

I think DH is writing for people who haven't read the books and all the added Ross and Elizabeth scenes are for the audience to wonder if Ross and Elizabeth will eventually get back together.  Is is so unlikely especially in the 1700's that it is not dramatic for me but annoying.  I have just seen the scene where Ross gives George the guineas from Monk A. and George throws them in his face.  It doesn't make sense for Ross to say to Elizabeth "What can I do".  I suppose it is supposed to convey that Ross still cares deeply for Elizabeth and still wants her back.  Perhaps it also explains why Ross constantly says that he married Demelza for her farming skills and not for love.


 Little Henry

You raise a good point about the constant repetition of Ross' explanation for marrying Demelza - which is not in the books that I recall. Neither is the often repeated description of Demelza as a "miner's daughter". Ross tells Demelza he loves only her but then contradicts this by saying he needed someone who could do the mucky work. This aspect spoils all the series for me. It is suggesting that Ross really wanted Elizabeth but she wouldn't have been willing to do the work Demelza did so he had to make do with second best. I am looking forward to returning to the books after the final episode next Sunday.

Rumours about series 5 suggest that Debbie Horsfield will be writing her own series covering the ten year gap between The Angry Tide and The Stranger from the Sea. Aidan Turner has refused to act an older man but he is under contract for a 5th series. It seems that his strange stance is being pandered to. Of course it makes no sense to cover books 8 and 9 as there isn't a satisfactory break off point at the end of The Miller's Dance but an entire series of nothing but DH's ideas does not fill me with enthusiasm.



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Date: Jul 25 5:59 PM, 2018
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I think DH is writing for people who haven't read the books and all the added Ross and Elizabeth scenes are for the audience to wonder if Ross and Elizabeth will eventually get back together.  Is is so unlikely especially in the 1700's that it is not dramatic for me but annoying.  I have just seen the scene where Ross gives George the guineas from Monk A. and George throws them in his face.  It doesn't make sense for Ross to say to Elizabeth "What can I do".  I suppose it is supposed to convey that Ross still cares deeply for Elizabeth and still wants her back.  Perhaps it also explains why Ross constantly says that he married Demelza for her farming skills and not for love.



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Date: Jul 24 8:06 PM, 2018
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I wasn't able to watch this episode on Sunday but have just watched 9 or 10 clips from it on youtube and they have all been about how I pictured the story from the book.  Thank heavens Demelza has been very similar to the book Demelza as I was worried about how her character was going to be this season.  Hope it's O.K. to comment on just the clips but I thought they really did reflect the book very well and they showed the major story lines.  One more episode to go though but I agree it has been a good season.



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Date: Jul 23 12:07 AM, 2018
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Again this was an episode that kept to the book and I think was well done. There is, however, very little time for the rest of The Angry Tide in the one remaining episode next week so my main criticism of this series is that there were scenes in earlier episodes that strayed from the book, in my view unnecessarily. In particular, Ross' visits to Trenwith and his conversations with Elizabeth took up precious time. Having said all this, I think it would have been difficult to end each episode at a different stage of the story. 

I think that this has been the best series so far.



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