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I am bereft - have just finished reading all 12 books (for the 4th time) and am brokenhearted that I am now having to go back to reality once again until next year when I will start over with Ross Poldark.  Have allowed myself one read per year or I would not get through anything else and I am a very avid reader.  Started with Ross Poldard way back in Mach while I was awaiting an order of books re my second favourite period ie the Normans'/Templars' period and thought I would just stick to that one - then just read until Warleggan - well I just could not stop until I had got through the rest and now that I have finished Bella I am totally bereft.  By the way I agree with everything Dwight says - love all the characters (even George and Stephen) but adore Demelza.  Love Cornwall too but will not be able to get there this year as I am in search of all things Norman so its off to Sicily for 2 weeks.  Love reading the posts on this forum which will keep in touch with all things Poldarkin!!



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Dwight wrote:

 

Somehow, I think the love of Cornwall and the love of Poldark are almost one and the same.

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There's definitely something magical about the place and the story, once experienced, never forgotten; just gets into the blood and stays there.

As a child in the 60's I fell in love with Cornwall, before I even discovered the Poldark world, but there was always something mystical and romantic about the place.  Maybe, it was because we were always so very happy there and my Dad told such fabulous stories and made everything seem so exciting, telling us about the history of the places we visited.  I discovered Poldark in 1975 when the TV series was first aired, at the same time bought the books and devoured them one by one at the same time as watching it on TV.  Like you Dwight, I discovered the simplistic pleasures of Coverack and spent my first honeymoon in one of the fishermans cottages run as a B&B by a wonderful warm and good natured Cornish lady called Mrs Tripconey, who looked after us with a cheerful smile and also cooked me my very first homemade Cornish pasty which was one of the most delicious things I have ever eaten.  After a massive breakfast, she told us not to have lunch as we wouldn't have room for one of her pasties which would be the best thing we'd ever tasted ... she wasn't wrong!!  The memories of that visit last forever, sadly the marriage didn't fare so well.

Cornwall was to become an even closer part of my life as my second husband is a surfer and we spent nearly every weekend bumbling around the coast in our VW camper following the surf and the competition circuit in the '80's.  There's no greater pleasure than parking somewhere a little off the beaten track overlooking the beach on a stunning cliff-top, sun, wind or rain, with the crash of white surf, saltspray in your hair, fresh air in your lungs, a pleasurable weariness after a day spent surfing and reading, looking forward to a meal al fresco and a glass or two of wine and a few beers! We were lucky to have a little cottage up and out of Polperro and a boat to use whenever we wanted, which was most weekends and every week we could manage and have wonderful memories of great times spent there with friends.  Our daughters were both introduced to Cornwall at 6weeks old and it's become part of them too, both avid surfers and canoeists and love the place like us.  My youngest takes up her place at Falmouth Uni in September and can't wait as she spends most weekends there now with her boyfriend, also a surfer and they have a little flat at Praa Sands which is a base, but spend time chasing the surf in a much smarter VW camper than we ever had ourselves.  They are returning from Sennen tonight.

Totally agree with Char and Dwight, when they say the main attraction of Poldark is Demelza and the other vitally important ingredient being LOVE ...  and Ross, after it gradually dawned on him, realised that he was one of the luckiest men alive.  It's a mysteriously romantic and magical place which draws us in and never lets us go, demanding our utmost love and devotion and offers us in exchange such breathtaking beauty and mystic splendour which delights our senses and gives us the gift of happiness, much like the Poldarks.

 

 

 



 



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Date: Jun 29 8:36 AM, 2011
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We have stayed at a different place everytime and this year we are in a remote house near Lands End. We got a puppy last october and so it will be the first time we have ever taken a pet on holiday. She is a lively border collie so i thought ild pick somewhere quiet and remote! Im a little worried about her running off and falling down disused mine shafts though!



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As might be obvious, we have also been visiting Cornwall for very many years, including first holiday together and subsequent Honeymoon, plus first visit with daughter, and sadly, final visit with parents. Mostly we concentrate our visits slightly away from Poldark country, on the small section of the coast, east of The Lizard, and around as far as the Helford River. Our favourite place is the tiny traditional Cornish fishing village called Coverack, which is as relatively unspoilt and un touristy as you're likely to find anywhere in Cornwall these days. Coverack has the geographical advantage of not being on the through road to anywhere, so doesn't attract a lot of through traffic, or passing tourists, and of course there's nothing to "do" there, no night clubs, fast food, or kiss me quicks, just a wonderful place for a quiet holiday. Strange thing about Coverack, people either love it, and keep coming back, or very rapidly drive away to somewhere more "lively". Come to think of it, son in law proposed to daughter at Lowland Point, which overlooks the whole of Coverack Bay.

Just inland is an old and rather run down Cornish mansion, called Trelowarren, still in the ownership of the old Cornish Vyvyan family. It is (partly) open to the public, and I often wonder if it was WG's inspiration for Caroline's home Killewarren, whatever, I always wave to Caroline and Dwight as I drive past. Then of course, a little further on from the Helford, is the Falmouth estuary, just beyond which you will still find Caerhays Castle, where Jeremy met Cuby, so not really that far from Podark land after all.

Somehow, I think the love of Cornwall and the love of Poldark are almost one and the same.

Dwight



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Date: Jun 28 7:19 PM, 2011
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I went to Cornwall for the first time in 1977 (aagh!!) and it rained solidly in a cold,windy fashion for all of our trip. 

We bore it a grudge and didn't return until 4 years ago when the sun shone and it was wonderful! 

We have been twice since, including this year and still love the wildness, skies and seas of the beautiful 'Poldark' coast - and particularly the bit known as Penwith and around Godrevy beach - but we shall not return to the over touristed south coast fishing villages such as Polperro and Looe!



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Date: Jun 28 5:34 PM, 2011
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Hi Char,

I am very much in agreement with you about the contrast between the breath-taking Cornish landscape and ruins of mine engines. Cornwall and Devon have been places I have been visiting since I was young, and now I am that bit older I can appreciate it more. I will be going back at the end of August, and am counting down the days already.

 

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Dwight, i think, like all good conversations, many  of the threads wander off into other areas often only vaguely connected to the subject matter....

I agree about the main attraction of Poldark being Demelza, She is wihout doubt, my favourite literary character and her warm, witty nature makes her  very real. One of my favourite observations about Demelzas character is following the tragic death of Julia where WG describes how her appreciation and pleasure at seemingly small things helped her in her recovery. I love how her character matures and develops as the saga progresses, Demelza changes in every way possible, more than any other character in the book and its a joy to read of her transformation from way ward urchin child to Lady Poldark .

I have really only discovered Cornwall since 2005 , but this has really enhanced my enjoyment and love of the books. I love the ruined mine engines and the bleakness of the moorland compared to the splendour and beauty of the sea and cliffs and i look forward to going there again at the end of July.

 



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Char Nanfan wrote:
I have loved the books since I was 14, am now 50 but Poldark is such a part of my life I couldn't imagine being without them, so it's a delight to meet other people who love them as much as me.

 Hi Char,

This could be a case of hi-jacking a thread, so it might well need re-allocating, but . . . . . .

not sure when exactly Poldark was broadcast, but for ease of arithmetic, let's say it was 1973, which would have made my first aquaintance being at the age of thirty, and I'm now, God help us, sixty seven ! ! ! and I'm if anything more fascinated now than I was back then, and certainly a lot more knowledgeable, aka besotted.

So what is it about Poldark, of all the TV series, and multi novel sagas, which single out for us this devotion to a non-existant, fictional family, loosely woven into the obscure history of a backward mining community well over two hundred years in the past. Chances are, if we were to transport ourselves to live back then, we would not be living the life of Poldark, or Warleggan, but more likely of the Carnes, Carters, or Daniells, if we were lucky, or the Hoblyns or Paynters were we not. Romantic rose tinted spectacles, or what??? **

Well, for me, partly, it is Cornwall, which I have loved since even before Poldark, my first experience being family holidays in the early 1950s. But mainly I think it is the love which shines forth from WG's writing in this oh so sad, dirty, materialistic, and crass "reality" TV world, which our once proud and civilised country has become. And I suppose mainly it is the love which IS Demelza, and as it happens, which was so incredibly well portrayed by Angharad.

"She looked at him, candidly this time, without coquetry and without fear. 'I live only for you, Ross' ".

Demelza loves Ross to the depths of her being, and this love flows over into everything she has to do with the world around her, from Garrick, to her hollyhocks, to her friends, and even to her non-friends - Demelza could never have enemies. And this love overflows into so many other people, not just Ross, but Caroline and Dwight, and even Elizabeth, when she nurses Trenwith back to health, but loses Julia. And strangely enough, I even see it in her relationship with Hugh. She had so much love, she even wanted to split herself in two, so that she could give some of that love to Hugh, without lessening her love for Ross - didn't quite work out like that, but I can understand how she felt.

Ross of course became utterly devoted to Demelza, how could he not when she lived her life through loving him, but he also then had love to spare, and could love, admit to, and fancy Caroline, as she him, but they both then could love Demelza so much that it would be inconceivable for them to "lay" together.

So what is it about Poldark? Leaving everything else on one side, for me it can be summed up in two words, Demelza, & LOVE.

Dwight

** R M Ballantyne, the nineteenth century author who wrote the romantic children's novel "Coral Island", also wrote another excellent young person's novel entitled "Deep Down: A Tale of the Cornish Mines". Written around 1860, this novel is a tad heavy going, but does give an excellent, non-romantic, non rose-tinted idea, of just how tough conditions were in the Cornish tin & copper mines of the mid 1800s. Whilst researching his book, Ballantyne spent a number of months living amongst the miners of St Just and Botallack, even today a fairly bleak area on the North Cornish Coast. Strangely enough, the book opens with the main character, Oliver Trembath, also a young doctor, arriving in Cornwall, to work amongst the miners - now, where have we heard that before.

The online booksellers AbeBooks have a couple of hundred editions available, including some early 1880 editions, if funds allow. Have a look here http://tinyurl.com/6g9lnly. The book is also available via Amazon, or a free eBook is available here http://www.gutenberg.org/files/21726/21726-h/21726-h.htm, but not sure if it can be downloaded.

Just out of interest

Dwight



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Hi Lori, ive welcomed you in another thread but great to see you here! We love lots of poldark discussion so even if we have talked about a particular theme, we are always happy to have a new opinion and more chat! Once you have read the books , have a look through old threads and if one catches your eye, then post in it and it will refresh it and no doubt we will all happily discuss the subject again. Im often sorry when a subject seems to have been debated at length and comes to a close so dont worry bout bringing anything up again!

I have loved the books since i was 14, am now 50 but poldark is such a part of my life i couldnt not imagine being without them so its a delight to meet other people who love them as much as me.



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Welcome, Lori

When you are passing by Nampara, I will have a dish of tea awaiting!

This site is wonderful for discussing all things Poldarquian and we are able to wallow in that amazing world to our heart's content. Hope you enjoy doing it too.....

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Hi Lori, so glad you found us and a big warm welcome to the forum, where we're all absolutely addicted to anything Poldark related and always ready to discuss our favourite topic til the cows come home.  It's a joy to welcome you and I can remember experiencing the feelings of excitement you describe when I first found this forum myself.

Look forward to seeing lots more posts from you soon. biggrin



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We Carnes welcome you Lori. Feel free to post in the threads as much as you like, along with the old ones if you wish; we're all always up for anything Poldarquian! :)

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Hi Lori

Welcome aboard :)

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Hi Lori and a warm welcome ! You'll find plenty of enthusiasts just like yourself on here who'll be only too glad to answer your questions so hope you enjoy it all !

Don't worry as it's no problem at all, but I had to move your post to this Poldark Experts' forum as there's one or two spoilers in it for those who've yet to read the books or see the film.

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Hi Lori and welcome,
I'm very new here myself and I understand your excitement - isn't it great to find other Poldark people!
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I am sooo excited I dont know where to begin! I guess with a grateful THANKYOU to whoever it was that created this website! I am from the U.S. and a couple of weeks ago I came across this series on Ne****x! Since they only offer season one  I have watched season two on the internet and have since purchased both seasons on DVD. I feel abit late coming to the dance if you will, but none the less am here and so hoping to find others to share thoughts on this wonderful story. I was so sad when it all ended and I felt confused and had questions about Ross'es mind set, how he could pine after Elizabeth when he had adorable Demelza?! So I have now purchased the first three books of WG Poldark series. I have watched my new DVDs twice already!!! Do I think I have a new addiction coming on? Oh I cant tell you how gratified I was when I started searching the internet for any info I could find and somebody, ANYBODY whom I could talk to about this story. I was thrilled to see that there were recent posts here as I know the series was first released in the seventies in the U.K I believe? I was just twenty in the U.S. at the time and if I would have known of this I would have gladly had a set date for Saturday night with Ross Poldark!biggrin But I felt I needed to get the books to try and understand what the characters were thinking so I could understand why things were the way they were with Ross and Demelza. Why although in the series he said he did not care for Elizabeth (later on) as he did for Demelza, but his actions confused me. Also when he told Caroline he would gladly lay with her. If he loved Demelza why would he say this or feel this? So much I want to discuss and forgive me if I ask things I should not. I am new to this forum stuff and not quite sure how they work. Oh how good it is to know someone is out there! Helloooo!!!!!???? Help?!!!



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