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RE: Bella Poldark
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Vivian James wrote:

I always thought Bella was a spoliled brat- Cuby, too.  I dont blame Clowance for disliking her.  Her horrible treatment of Jeremy was the reason Jeremy joined the army and was killed.  I was always interested in the books dealing with  the relationship between Ross and Demelza.  The later books about their childrens love lives were kind of boring.  Please no horrible berating from the fans who are so obsessed with the series.  I really enjoyed the first few books.


 

The amazing take away for me is that when WG wrote Bella he was in his 90s. Since he probably knew this would be his final Poldark book, he undoubtedly decided to just have fun with it--especially with Butto and Paul (but Paul was too muchsmile).

The first and last books are my favorites. The latter largely because of Lord Edward Fitzmaurice. He is such a charmingly sweet, gentlemanly character; I would not have enjoyed the book nearly as much if not for his too brief appearances. I was also pleased that two of my other favorites, Ben and Christopher, had happy endings.

Regarding Bella being spoiled, I believe all the Poldark children were--spoiled but not obnoxious. Since Bella was for so long the youngest, she just had more people to indulge her. But Clowance was just as spoiled growing up. She knew how to stretch parental limits without suffering consequences--like running away from school and trespassing at Trenwith when she was repeatedly told not to. I sometimes think Demelza was a little in awe of her children because they were gentry born.

I also thought Clowance's anger at Cuby for rejecting Jeremy was hypocritical. After all (at various times), she was just as guilty as Cuby of breaking the hearts of her equally besotted suitors--Edward, Tom Guildford, Philip, poor Ben. But since Jeremy was her brother, I guess Clowance was oblivious to the similarity. (Ben's case especially was very similar to Jeremy's. I was afraid he would run off and join the army after Clowance married Stephen.)

Of the two daughters, I'm more drawn to Bella. Twice only, I found her actions indefensible--when she let Maurice's ungentlemanly influence outweigh her sense of propriety. Her running away from Mrs. Pelham--who took her in and treated her like a daughter--was disrespectful and shameful. Equally shabby was her treatment of Christopher, furtively running off with Maurice when he was away. Interestingly, throughout the saga, it seems that it is mostly his male characters that WG torments with unrequited love and betrayals.

Bella's theatrical storyline was totally enthralling. Her presence and self-confidence were admirable and Chris's belief in her talents unshakable. Apparently, Chris's own career was bright but he was willing to subjugate everything for her. Quite unusual for a man of the times. (So many love stories in the final book.)

WG did a riveting, edge-of-your-seat narration of Bella's Romeo & Juliet performance. I wonder if he saw something of himself in her, the way she beat the odds--and her life-threatening illness--to become a success. If I recall correctly, he too was sickly in his youth.

Anyway, opinions differ but what a finale to an amazing saga by an amazing writer! There are a few plaguey loose ends, but overall WG wrapped up things nicely.

 

 



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To each his own.  



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I am just nearly finished reading "Bella Poldark" having gone through the whole series once again.  Last night I came across this:  "Clowance had sent a WARM invitation to Bella to stay in Lansdowne House . .. Bella had tactfully and affectionately and sweetly refused. . . . Mama, I am so sorry."  These words just don't reflect the character of a "spoiled brat".  Spoiled brats are selfish, rude, disrespecful to young and old alike, have tantrums, are demanding, care not a whit for anyone's feelings and people do not like them.  I see none of this in Bella.  Bella does not demand singing lessons, it was Demelza's idea.  She keeps her feelings about her loss of voice to herself, weeping herself to sleep and it is Demelza who thinks she should talk about it more.  Her siblings all love her as do her neighbours (except for George).  Can't think anywhere in the books that she is disliked.  She is grateful for her parents and for Christopher and Maurice for their interest in her career.  She doesn't like Christopher's drinking but is tolerant and doesn't have a tantrum over it.  These qualities of tolerance and gratitude are unknown to a spoiled brat. 

Ross and Demelza were indulgent to all of their children but would not have tolerated brattishness.  Bella is not rude or disrespectful to her parents.  She learned that by the way they acted towards each other and to their children.  There were limits - Bella was not allowed to use the piano until she was older.  Also, in the book, Bella writes:  "I love you and Papa . . . I love the sea and the clank of the mine engines, and the wind and the wildness.  I love to talk to the folk on the farm, to the bal maidens - the simplicity and the warmth of it all."  Not the expressions of a mere spoiled brat.  Bella is talented and creative, born to be a performer and I am so glad she becomes famous as it hints of further fun and excitement and adventures for Ross and Demelza. 

I have just quickly glanced at some passages newly read but I think I could find many more in other books that she is so much more than some give her credit for.

 

 



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Scrolling to the beginning of this thread I'd realised I'd missed the comparison to Jackie Evancho as Bella.

Wonderful....!!

 



-- Edited by Ross Poldark on Friday 22nd of March 2019 02:21:26 PM

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I found the book quite superfluous.   It is really hard for me to believe that she turned out to be so talented.  Graham must have been grasping at straws when he used that story line.  However I believe his developement of the character of Harriet was pure genius.. What a handful she was for George.  She was a woman way ahead of her time.  Sort of like Demelza.



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I always thought Bella was a spoliled brat- Cuby, too.  I dont blame Clowance for disliking her.  Her horrible treatment of Jeremy was the reason Jeremy joined the army and was killed.  I was always interested in the books dealing with  the relationship between Ross and Demelza.  The later books about their childrens love lives were kind of boring.  Please no horrible berating from the fans who are so obsessed with the series.  I really enjoyed the first few books.



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I thought it was a poignant scene at the end of the last book when Bella was coming home in a stage coach with her parents, after a performance she had done, and the minute they passed over the line into Cornwall, she asked to step out of the coach and pick up a handfull of dirt to smell it.  To me this symbolised that no matter how famous she might become in the future, she would never forget her humble roots.



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Char Nanfan wrote:

my heart sank a little as i dreaded WG might have included the demise of either Ross or Demelza.


 I did too Char ....

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Ah, Bella, i wonder what you will think of it! I always thought the saga had ended after The Loving CUp because it seemed to me that all ends were tied up, both children married and all safe so i was surprised when The Twisted Sword appeared. I was then even more surprised when Bella appeared and have to say that my heart sank a little as i dreaded WG might have included the demise of either Ross or Demelza.

I await to hear your opinion of this final book.



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Evening Everyone

Sixteen months ago I discovered that Winston Graham had written Bella in 2002.  Being such a huge Poldark fan, I couldn't believe that I had not known.....believing that The Twisted Sword was the end.  In 2002 I was raising my children, and had no knowledge of the internet and I think this is why I did not hear about Bella Poldark.  It was also sixteen months ago that I discovered this forum. I decided not to jump straight into Bella (which I bought in Hardback from e-bay for £1) but to re-read the novels from Book One, seeing as it had been a while. It has been difficult not to flick through Bella Poldark, nor read snippets about it on here. Clearly I am a slow reader, cos it has taken me a year and a half to read the 11 novels.

Last night, I finally picked up my Bella Poldark. As the candles flickered I began Chapter One.....I cannot tell 'ye all how excited I be ..........

Bella



-- Edited by Bella on Saturday 11th of June 2011 10:08:48 PM

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MorwennaCarne wrote:
 And yes, I imagine Bella to perform just like Jackie, but not look like her. I always imagine Bella to have long dark hair and pale skin, with a disposition not unlike Demelza.

 Yes, but Demelza actually had red hair, it's just that on TV, rather like Jessica Rabbit, she was just drawn that way.

As for little Jackie, never heard of her before, don't do "talent" shows, but when she first starts to sing you can only sit there in utter disbelief at such an amazing and mature voice from such a young girl. Stunning. I scrolled through to several other clips and was completely blown away. I just hope that her parents can protect both her and her voice from too much over exposure, and hopefully she matures rather more like Kathryn Jenkins than Charlotte Church.

And yes, as a young and precocious Bella, she'd be ideal.

 

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I saw Jackie for the first time on Britain's Got Talent last week. I initially refused to believe that such a young girl could have such a mature voice and perform so gracefully. I agree Namps, she is incredibly articulate, and understated for her capability and talent.
And yes, I imagine Bella to perform just like Jackie, but not look like her. I always imagine Bella to have long dark hair and pale skin, with a disposition not unlike Demelza.

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Well it's been quite an interesting evening so far. I've downloaded Internet Explorer 8 yet still no sign of a green bar anywhere, on top of which I still hadn't heard her voice on Firefox or anything else. So for these occasions I keep Millenium which is still working fine including sound !

Agreed what a fantastic mature voice, hard to believe. Very similar to the English woman's on the same type of show last year I thought....amazing !

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Hi Ross, yes I have sound and vision, wonderful! Thanks.  Thought this was what I did originally but the video appeared in the post prior to submitting post and then disappeared once posted.  Funny strange, but will have another go.  What do you think of her voice?



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Hi NG,

Difficult one still as there's no sound yet, but once you've clicked on Share in YouTube, look below the blue code that appears and you'll see embed. Then enter the whole code into the tool bar in the usual way.

Are you getting any sound ?

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Hey Bells, can't for the life of me manage to embed a video here anymore, the option has disappeared from the toolbar above.  Try copying and pasting this link below, hope it works.

http://youtu.be/xPITHzdUUDk



-- Edited by Namparagirl on Wednesday 8th of June 2011 10:05:45 PM

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What is it Namps? I can't find it grrrrr ..........

 



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This is absolutely awesome!

 

http://youtu.be/xPITHzdUUDk



-- Edited by Namparagirl on Wednesday 8th of June 2011 09:30:10 PM

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Has anyone seen Jackie Evancho, aged 11 years, perform?  Now she is exactly how I imagine Bella to have been, minus the American accent.  What a big amazing voice for such a small, beautiful and incredibly articulate and assertive 11 year old girl.  She must be the first choice for a young girl to play the part of our Bella.






-- Edited by Namparagirl on Wednesday 8th of June 2011 03:32:27 PM

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Bella Poldark.



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