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Date: Aug 18 11:42 AM, 2010
The weakest storyline(s) in the books ?
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Definitely agree that Valentine was lost and that as a result he had probably built up a lot of resentment against both George for never being fair and Ross for never being totally honest with him. And that this resentment over time gradually became directed against society and life in general. However I think that his resentment particularly against society would have been far better expressed ideally through the illegal activities of smuggling, perhaps consciously or unconsciously revealing his suspicion that Ross really was his father. In passing I think that never revealing who Valentine's father really was, was one of the best if not the best storyline in all the books.

So it's for these reasons that choosing Butto to express Valentine's understandable resentment suddenly left the whole of the great parentage storyline so badly lopsided. Unfortunately in the very last book of all. And why I said that if Valentine had been caught smuggling, he would have taken a really perverse almost vicious delight, and quite reasonably in my view (!), at getting his revenge back on them publicly and highly embarrassingly in Court.

No matter how serious his final punishment because that would have been the ultimate satisfaction of all.



-- Edited by Tholly on Wednesday 18th of August 2010 11:44:37 AM

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cry Well, Tholly, I do agree with you that the Butto storyline was weak.  However, I think, perhaps, WG wrote it in there to show everyone just how far Valentine was lost.  He didn't understand himself, had been lost since a little child with losing a father figure.  He'd suffered the loss of his mother at age 5 or 6.  Elizabeth was the only person who gave him unconditional love.  Valentine abused George's so called generosity because Valentine had learned that George had never truly accepted him as his son even with Elizabeth's sacrifice.  WG made that clear by describing how Ursula looked like George and even had a calculating mind like her father. George would siphoned Valentine's love off when his suspicions were aroused and until Valentine had become an adult with loads of problems did not venture to seek out Ross as his potential father. Valentine chose, of course, the worst moment possible as Ross was still stung by Jeremy's death.  Ross did everything he could to at least give Valentine some guidance because Ross felt guilty I think in a way and had resigned himself that he was probably Valentine's biological father.


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Great pity about Butto which spoilt the ending of the last book enormously as it was so completely out of character with everything that had happened up till then. But then at WG's age allowances must be made for it must have been a huge effort to begin with. Nevertheless I've always wondered why do it at all with the parentage of Valentine still in question allowing for a great finale between Ross and George. Much less effort all round I would have thought.

Miles better if Valentine had gone into smuggling from Ireland after all and got caught red-handed say by Constable Purdy (having been tipped off by Selina), forcing Ross and George with all their high public status to face these most uncomfortable facts of all in Court. I can just see Valentine in dock enjoying every question !

And rather the house fire which I thought was weak freed because of the potential public scandal ? Found guilty and deported to Australia? Ross and George hating the sight of each other even more ? Lady Harriet banging their heads together and everything ending amicably ? Or WG's favourite trick of all and mine, leaving it open to the reader's imagination entirely ? What missed opportunities !

Such a great pity that all that hard work and effort went into creating Butto which sadly went nowhere.



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