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Thanks Mrs Gimlett. I came to the books through the 70s series and have been reading them ever since. I feel as though I know them almost by heart now. The first seven anyway.

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A fresh reading of the Prologue is always insightful. It links Joshua and Ross so poignantly. I wonder if, given Joshua's legendary philandering, a man like him would have left a slew of illegitimate children throughout the county. Everyone agreed that no woman--married or single, gentle or rough born--was safe from him when he was on the prowl.

Going from the Prologue to Ross's return to Truro, it's easy to see some of the nobler traits that the young man inherited from his father. When Ross visits Notary Pearce and asks him who has been administering Joshua's affairs, Pearce tells him that there had been little left to administer.

"A slow smile crept over Ross's mouth; it made him look younger, less intractable."

I loved Ross from that moment on; it spoke volumes about his character.   



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Welcome to our forum, Beguilingeyes.  Plenty here for you to join in with.  How did you come to the books, through the 70s series, or were you a WG fan before that?

We look forward to hearing your views on all things Poldark.

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Mrs Gimlett and Fijane, I urge you to revisit the 70s series. The first four episodes are, admittedly, diabolical but it get much better after that and the scenes around Ross's trial and Francis's death are very well done. Series two (books 4-7) is much more better and follows the books exactly. Winston was the on set and is in a couple of scenes as an extra.

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Then there's Joshua in the Prologue telling Charles he'd mislaid Ross' letter in which Ross was lucky to have escaped the Yorktown siege, in addition asking Choake if he had seen anything of the Chynoweths after getting a suspiciously evasive answer earlier from Charles....



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No I don't think Jud could read, but he would have taken a letter to either the parson or Zacky Martin for it to be read to him.

Similarly, in the first edition, as below, it mentions that Elizabeth and Ross had some type of correspondence going on while he was in America.  If her letters went astray and he sent nothing for a while, perhaps that is when they thought he may have been killed.

They don't think much of Ross' survival skills by the sound of it!



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Brightgirl, how lovely!

It's wonderful to have this one solved!! Of course now I'm wondering if the indolent Jud could actually read.

Thank you,

Holly



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Hi Hollyhock

I just purchased a first edition of the book and started reading it today and I believe I may have a possible answer to your question about why Ross expected Jud to meet him at the Red Lion Inn.

(page 44)

The book states "Over his meal he took out her (Elizabeth's) letters. He opened the last, written six months ago. Reading with the knowledge he now had, there were hints of a slackening interest. Perhaps she had written later to tell him the truth and the letter had missed him or been lost. Letters were always being lost.     Against his better judgment he was inclined to believe that the Paynters had not had his letter from Winchester.

So it seems Ross wrote to Jud to meet him but possibly Jud did  not receive the letter.



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One of the things that I had forgotten was that Mrs. Teague was a distant cousin to the Poldarks. She sat at that same table, across from the Henshawe's, before it was removed for the cockfight (p. 52).

Perhaps this was covered in the first edition? When Ross returns home and disembarks from the coach that he shared with Halse, he goes to the the Red Lion Inn. He tells the landlord that Jud was to have met him there and that the arrangement was quite definite. With whom had Ross made this arrangement?  It was not with Pearce. Ross clearly had not written to any of the Poldarks. Bit of a mystery?

In terms of how the series is affecting images--Aidan will always be Ross for me. Not so much because of his physical attractiveness; Aidan is much more handsome than WG's description of Ross. But because he seems to capture and portray the essence of the character as WG paints him--his facial expressions, his moodiness, his restlessness, his loneliness and sadness. And his voice. His is the voice that I hear when I think of Ross giving orders around the farm and in the mine and when he talks with Dwight and Pascoe and Darkie. 

 

 



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I realise, of course, that reading the line I instanced below, about the table being carried out, wouldn't mean anything to someone reading the book for the first time.  It's only with the knowledge of all the books that it becomes an anomaly, or at least an interesting observation.

Fijane, I never saw the 1970s series until about 4 or 5 years ago, when a friend played me the first few episodes.  Like you, I got very turned off it when Ross went to the fair and Demelza was introduced.  Then I wanted no more of it.  However, if you are lucky enough to have a first edition, WGs description of Ross is almost as if he is describing Robin Ellis.  One thing that did strike me about those first episodes, was how dominant a figure Robin was, because he was roughly the same height as WG imagined.  Aidan Turner, on the other hand, does not stand out in that way.  That is off-topic, but only marginally! 

I love the world my imagination has conjured just from reading.  Nothing can beat it.  biggrin

 



-- Edited by Mrs Gimlett on Friday 4th of August 2017 08:32:45 AM

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Interesting question as having read the first 11 books not knowing there had been a film in the 70s I've never had an image and still haven't of anyone. However when I was reading "Meeting Demelza" I immediately pictured Angharad Rees and WG alone walking along the path with Nampara in the distance and the sea behind, and I think Demelza saying that Ross will be home soon for his tea. Yet Ross was still just a name nothing more.

In passing I can't remember if there was a Garrick or not in the first series....confuse



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I have re-read the whole series since the show started, and I find that the characters look like the actors in the new show but still "behave" as they always have in all my previous readings.

I did not get beyond about four eps of the 1975 series, so my characters have never looked like those actors.

Thank goodness our imaginations are loyal.



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I have recently been reading the first edition of Ross Poldark, in an attempt to get back into the proper Poldark world.  One thing that has always fascinated me is when you read something for the enth time and see new things.

In the description of Francis and Elizabeth's wedding, when Ross is at his lowest ebb, a cockfight takes place.

This is what it says:

When the great feast was over at last the big table was carried out and the exhausted guests sat round in a circle to watch a cockfight.

The big table was carried out.  Much later in the books, it was always unmoveable.  Too big to even be carried anywhere, just placed on end when Geoffrey Charles held his party, after he had uprooted it from the flags.

I had never noticed that before.

As a result of that, I would like to suggest we all re-read RP and see what other surprises are unearthed.

Despite all my criticism about the TV series, when I pick up a book, all the images conjured up by WG return and my own vision of each character remains as it always has been.  I find it second nature to discard all I have seen on TV, thank goodness. How do others 'see' Ross in their minds? 

I have to admit, my image of him is very like Robin Ellis, but formed before any TV series - he just happened to fit WGs first edition description to a T.



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