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1. Is the most interesting scene or passage in all the books ?  Pilchard catch.  Also, the endings of Poldark and Jeremy.  Each one ends with existential moments for both Ross and Demelza.

2. Is the funniest ?  WG's description of Ross watching drunk Ebb and Flo and then Hugh Bodrugan's entrance onto the scene.

3. Is the saddest ? Jeremy's death and how it affects his family.  Kills me every time.  Cuby telling Demelza "I wish I could die."  Ugh.

4. Is a passage or chapter that reflects or displays Winston Graham skills and abilities to their finest ?  May 9 - Christmas Eve.  The slow healing and reconciliation. Beautiful. Also Aunt Agatha's death.  

5. Is a passage or chapter that would make you unquestionably want to visit Cornwall, and where ? Descriptions of the beach.

6. Is the most interesting true historical scene depicted in the books ? Waterloo.  Painful.

7. Is the most interesting true historical character in the books ?  I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know my British history all that well, but I think "steam" is a very interesting "character."  The development, Jeremy's fascination with it and Demelza could never think about steam without thinking about Jeremy.

8. Is the most interesting fictional character in the books ? Demelza and Ross and their relationship.  WG knew about relationships, that's for sure.

9. Is your most favourite animal in the books ?  Garrick.  I love WG's various descriptions of him.

10. Would be the most interesting chapter or chapters you feel could be the most suitable to be performed live on stage ?  Totally agree with Mrs. G's answer to this question!

11. Would be your thoughts on hearing some or all the books slowly broadcast on radio ? I'm so afraid (after the tv series) of anyone messing up WG's text.

12. a). Other non Poldark books by Winston Graham have you read ?  I've seen Marnie, but not read anything else.

      b). If you haven't read one yet then which book would you choose to start reading first and why ?  I don't know; what do you recommend?  Oh, I would like to read A Private Man.



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Completing my list

To get back to the books again who/what....

2.  Is the funniest?

Many of Jud's outrageous antics but particularly his challenge of Rev. Odgers' statement that St. Sawle floated over from Ireland on a millstone. During the ensuing drama Jud insults half the church and is kicked out. Also, the scene where Jud is bitten on his rear by a graveyard dog when he tries to attack it with his shovel. Summoned by his wails, sympathetic villagers follow Jud home where Prudie cauterizes the bite with a red hot poker. WG must have loved Jud and Prudie so much that he couldn't bear to kill them off.

3. Is the saddest?

Baby Julia's death. The little girls carrying the tiny coffin to the church and the many people that turned out to show their love and respect broke Ross (and me) up. 

4. Is a passage or chapter that reflects or displays Winston Graham skills and abilities to their finest?

My absolute favorite is the Truro election when Ross stands against George for the hotly contested parliament seat. The tension that WG creates is palpable. I was in the throes of an anxiety attack by the time that last vote was counted and was forced to drink a bottle of port to de-stress.  smile

7. Is the most interesting true historical character in the books?

George Canning. The way WG integrates him into the story is so believable, as is the way he depicts the warm friendship between Ross and Canning. Their bonding over the issues of the day give focus to Ross' frustration and restlessness; the letters are a nice touch. Loved the way Canning set Ross up to receive his baronetcy. I also like the way WG depicts Ross' interactions with the Prince Regent, and Dwight's analysis of the King's illness.

I had never been particularly interested in the Napoleonic Wars but WG makes the conflict such an integral part of the story that the saga has become an engaging tutor for me.

9. Is your most favourite animal in the books?

Darkie because she was such a steadfast, loyal companion to Ross, who obviously loved her more than any horse he ever owned. Have to mention Harriet's menagerie but only because the animals annoyed George to distraction--especially Philbert, the little galago. Loved the story Valentine tells about when one of the dogs, Pollux or Castor, gets a bluebottle in his ear and upends George in front of guests. But for inventiveness, I have to say that Butto is the most memorable. I thought the whole Butto thing was bizarre, but I can never forget him and his antics.

10. Would be the most interesting chapter or chapters you feel could be the most suitable to be performed live on stage?

Bella's portrayal of Romeo. WG makes it sound brilliant.   



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To get back to the books again who/what....

1. Is the most interesting scene or passage in all the books ?

 The second part of the missing chapter 6 in Demelza. Nowhere else is Elizabeth?s negative aspects more accurately revealed. Her need to look perfect, appearance being all. The extent of her devotion to Geoffrey Charles is revealed and the state of her marriage to Francis and that she still has feelings for Ross. Perhaps what is most interesting is her degradation of Demelza..?Perhaps his little wife would not welcome new servants lest she be mistaken for one of them.? Elizabeth rants on about Francis not appreciating her and says ?You keep your thanks for?for I know not what strumpet and your praise for the beggar girl Ross has married.? None of this appears in the later editions yet it explains so much about Elizabeth?s character.

2. Is the funniest

The time Harriet allowed a party and dealt with George's objections. In fact all the times Harriet put down George.

3. Is the saddest ?

The death of Julia because it is the first serious gulf in the relationship between Ross and Demelza and I think drives them apart for some time. Jeremy?s death is joint saddest and again drives a wedge between them.

 4. Is a passage or chapter that reflects or displays Winston Graham skills and abilities to their finest ?

It is for me both the lead up to and the night of the pilchard catch. WG tells us that Ross was content. He suggests to Demelza that they take his boat and row to Sawle to watch them putting down the tuck net.  Demelza is excited and Ross says it is as if he has invited her to a ball. WG creates an atmosphere of fun and excitement even before they set foot in the boat and then the mood changes to romantic. It is also the sharing of an experience of seeing people get the food they need.  The description of the warm weather, the moonlight, lanterns and Ross and Demelza talked in lowered voices of what they saw. Returning to land Ross kissed Demelza and she noticed that? he had never kissed her before except in passion. This was something different. She knew him to be closer to her tonight than he had ever been before?. It is a very positive and happy part of ?Ross Poldark? which is rare in the Poldark books. Then back at Namapara Ross tells Demelza he loves her.

 5. Is a passage or chapter that would make you unquestionably want to visit Cornwall, and where ?

The Holy Well that Drake takes Morwenna and Geoffrey Charles to see. The Crown Houses at Botallack as they are majestic and dramatic on the edge of the cliffs.

 6. Is the most interesting true historical scene depicted in the books ?

 7. Is the most interesting true historical character in the books ?

 8. Is the most interesting fictional character in the books ?

It has to be Ross for me. He is flawed, multilayered, open minded, caring of others, infuriating and unpredictable and human. Demelza is a very close second as she is a strong character in her own right and remains her own person.

 9. Is your most favourite animal in the books ?

Garrick because he was a character in his own right.

 10. Would be the most interesting chapter or chapters you feel could be the most suitable to be performed live on stage ?

The trial itself but also the conversation between Elizabeth and Francis in part 2 of the missing chapter 6 in 'Demelza'.

 11. Would be your thoughts on hearing some or all the books slowly broadcast on radio ?

Like Mrs G I would be happy to listen to all the books on radio. In fact I have already listened to some of Jeremy Poldark. The only problem is having the time to sit still long enough.

 12. a). Other non Poldark books by Winston Graham have you read ?

'Meeting Demelza' - a short story. I started to read the book of short stories but read only two and didn't enjoy them

      b). If you haven't read one yet then which book would you choose to start reading first and why ?

Grove of eagles because it is set in Cornwall in an earlier period.

 

 



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To get back to the books again who/what....

1. Is the most interesting scene or passage in all the books ?

The night of the pilchard catch has beautiful prose and the added attraction of Ross realising his marriage is not a sham and telling Demelza for the first time that he loves her.  There is an air of excitement and thrill when the pair get back to Nampara.

2. Is the funniest ?

I love the scene when Ebb and Flow get given the barrel dregs by Jeremy and become inebriated.  WG says Ross is 'helpless with laughter', which always brings a smile to my face.

3. Is the saddest ?

The aftermath of Jeremy's death and the way WG writes of Demelza's reaction to the news.

4. Is a passage or chapter that reflects or displays Winston Graham skills and abilities to their finest ?

There are so many, but I think it's the ending of The Four Swans, when Demelza comes in from visiting Caroline.  She and Ross talk and try to sort out the difficulties.  I think it must be one of the few times when they really say what they mean without an argument developing.

5. Is a passage or chapter that would make you unquestionably want to visit Cornwall, and where ?

I'm not really in a position to answer this since I am in Cornwall, but there are so many beautiful descriptions to choose from.  Actually, right at the beginning of book 1 I wanted to be in the area - even though it was many years before I actually moved here.  It wasn't so much the prose, more a gentle drawing in by WG, until I felt rather more of an insider than the reader of a story.

6. Is the most interesting true historical scene depicted in the books ?

The night of the Duchess of Gordon's Ball, when the fall of the Government is expected and George nearly has apoplexy because of his recent investments. George's part is fictional, but the ball really took place along with the political events.

7. Is the most interesting true historical character in the books ?

Richard Trevithick, who, whilst not perhaps the most interesting, nevertheless is the catalyst for how Jeremy's life develops. Otherwise Colquhoun Grant is interesting - he gets Ross right into the action and able to see his beloved son at the most critical time.

8. Is the most interesting fictional character in the books ?

I think I will plump for Harriet Carter.  She has such delicious and outrageous lines and can read George like a book, while she completely baffles him.  Just a refreshing breath of air.  Of course, I am interested in all the characters to a greater or lesser extent.

9. Is your most favourite animal in the books ?

I love the way Clowance adores Nero, who is quite clearly a very good mount.  I'll plump for Nero.

10. Would be the most interesting chapter or chapters you feel could be the most suitable to be performed live on stage ?

George visiting Agatha in her bedroom and getting the news that changed his life.  Jeremy invading Cuby's bedroom and inveigling her to marry him. Demelza seducing Ross by candlelight.

11. Would be your thoughts on hearing some or all the books slowly broadcast on radio ?

Yes, I would love to hear the books dramatized on radio. So much easier - no problems of location or numbers of extras.  I think the whole series could be done that way, sticking absolutely to the original.

12. a). Other non Poldark books by Winston Graham have you read ?

Quite a number.  I have never read The Stained Glass Window, which is one I'm looking out for.  I would recommend The Japanese Girl, WGs book of short stories if you haven't read other works of his.  A good mixture of subjects, most with a surprising twist. The Forgotten Story has a sudden and uncomfortable ending.

 

      b). If you haven't read one yet then which book would you choose to start reading first and why ?

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To get back to the books again who/what....

1. Is the most interesting scene or passage in all the books ?

A very hard one this but the tense and very dramatic scene where Jeremy secretly visits Cuby and finally breaking down her defences, persuades her to elope with him immediately as I was on tenterhooks when I first read it.

2. Is the funniest ?

Definitely Music Thomas and Katie Carter drinking the chillblain potion.

3. Is the saddest ?

Cuby's dreadfully tragic reaction when she realised that Ross was approaching with a cart behind, which I found very difficult to read as it gave me a lump in my throat and sometimes still does.

4. Is a passage or chapter that reflects or displays Winston Graham skills and abilities to their finest ?

Again Cuby's dreadfully tragic reaction as in three above.

5. Is a passage or chapter that would make you unquestionably want to visit Cornwall, and where ?

Many of the mining scenes and in particular Botallack.

6. Is the most interesting true historical scene depicted in the books ?

Always having been interested in the Battle of Waterloo as well as having visited the site, especially the pivotal point of the whole battle at the farmhouse Château d'Hougoumont before it was restored, I thought it was very well researched and blended incredibly well into the overall story. Especially the rain soaked battlefield which made a very convincing and realistic backdrop.

7. Is the most interesting true historical character in the books ?

Lord Liverpool with his very convincing and informal approach to Ross.

8. Is the most interesting fictional character in the books ?

Jud Paynter will always be the most interesting because of his hilarious portrayal, such a great character.

9. Is your most favourite animal in the books ?

Garrick, inspired no doubt by WG's own wayward Pyranean Mountain dog, and how he also blended so well with Ross and Demelza in the books.

10. Would be the most interesting chapter or chapters you feel could be the most suitable to be performed live on stage ?

The tense events finally leading up to Ross's trial over inciting the shipwreck and struggling to keep calm throughout, especially when confronted by Sir Henry Bull.

11. Would be your thoughts on hearing some or all the books slowly broadcast on radio ?

I think this could make a very interesting experiment in its own right to at least give it a trial as basically it would be no different to the audiobooks already available on MP3, which I think are very good with just the narrator anyway. Then like the Archers which is the world's longest running radio serial having first been aired in 1950 and is still being aired daily today, merging both concepts together.

For example there would firstly be the narrator reading out the descriptive passages as usual, then when it came to the dialogue the actors behind would take over speaking their parts following exactly every line in each of all 12 books, one following after the other. Most importantly of all I think this would allow one's own imagination to take over in just the same way as when reading the books, rather than having someone else's imagination constantly intruding and spoiling things. Imagination always being the cinema of the mind.

I also think it might work very well too given the huge technological advances in sound and broadcasting that are available today....

For example the plundering of the Queen Charlotte on the beach with the background of a howling gale and the roaring of surf with the actors all shouting above the noise. Equally the duel with Ross and Monk Adderley while still back to back with pistols raised, then you hear them both breathing heavily, then the faint sound of footsteps with birds incongruously singing in the background as they start to walk before the final sound of pistol shots and the sudden cry of pain from Monk ; the hubbub and music in the background of the county ball in Truro with for example Verity introducing Captain Blamey to Ross; Ross and Dwight rescuing Jim Carter in prison; Jud at Sally Chill Offs insisting that Jesus was a St Austell man, or when tipsy in church or being caught out having doctored the brandy. Most interesting too would be at the Battle of Waterloo among many other interesting choices, but the key point is that it would always be following the books with no deviation from the text ever.

Obviously with 12 books and even though being broadcast on a daily basis like the Archers, it would still take many years to finish but if they are are still being broadcast after 67 years it shouldn't be that much of a technical problem at all.

12. a). Other non Poldark books by Winston Graham have you read ?

All of them barring two or three horror and murder stories which I've never liked anyway.

      b). If you haven't read one yet then which book would you choose to start reading first and why ?

If I had to start rereading them all again I would start with "The Grove of Eagles" then "The Forgotten Story" then "Cordelia" then "Marnie". Barring a lot of now very rare books up to 1942, all those published afterwards should be quite easily obtainable on the Internet.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071015004741/http://www.poldark.org.uk/bibliography.html

As for the films definitely first for me would be "Take My Life" made in 1947, nevertheless a well produced and very absorbing thriller despite its age. With second a murder story "Fortune is a Woman" produced in 1957, finally third "Marnie" starring Sean Connery and Tipi Hedren filmed in America by Hitchcock although the story is originally set in England.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071015004841/http://www.poldark.org.uk/films.html

Luckily "Take My Life" has been uploaded onto YouTube so if you're interested I would recommend downloading it whilst you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0PVvq1 yeargqJ4



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I found the vellow (rip-tide) particularly interesting, having once been caught in one - fortunately long ago, when I was a strong swimmer, and also I knew what to do. I can well understand why people panic - you can be quite close to the shore, but completely unable to swim towards it. You swim sideways, and suddenly it lets you go - the change is so complete that you almost think you must have been imagining it (but don't go back and check!) From the shore, you can often see where there is a vellow - as the waves come in, a section along the middle is different, not breaking at the same time. 



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To get back to the books again who/what....

1. Is the most interesting scene or passage in all the books ?

WG's descriptive scenery is one of the things that makes reading the books a pleasure for me. And of the scenery, his descriptions of the sea in its many moods is poetic, so much so that the sea becomes an intrinsic character. He must have loved living near the sea.

But one of my favorite scenes is the morning after Demelza seduces Ross. She wakes at dawn, "under the eaves the finches made liquid sounds like water dripping in a pool." Then in a long, leisurely passage reflecting her mood, WG describes how she wanders around Nampara as if seeing it for the first time. Delighting in her new awareness, she finally sits under the apple tree. "She sat so still, her neck curved in lassitude, her skirts drawn up, her bare legs in sensuous contact with the grass and the leaves, that a chaffinch hopped down and began its "pink-pink" cry beside her hand..." The imagery of the entire passage is evocative and beautiful.

2. Another image rich, revealing passage is set in the The Angry Tide. Ross goes night fishing with his friends and is caught in a vellow. I found this scene symbolic in that Ross seems to realize (up to a point) that in both a vellow and life one sometimes has to go with the flow in order to survive. "He soon realized that he was making no headway at all. By swimming hard up the beach he was about remaining in the same place... The current wanted to take him out. In fact it was taking him out whether he wanted to go or not... He lay on his back for a few minutes admiring the half-moon. As it rose above the sand-hills so had it paled.  The half-bitten coin had turned from copper to orange; now it was lemon; in another half hour there would be scarcely any colour. Little lips of waves glimmered and glinted with it. It sprinkled its light on the water, making the shadows dance." He gets out with a little help from his friends.

8. Is the most interesting fictional character in the books ?

Ross--he walks on water for me. Caroline is second. 

 



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1. Is the most interesting scene or passage in all the books ? The escape from the French prison.

2. Is the funniest ? Jud getting pulled out to sea by the fishing line, after Ross had been caught in the vellow - still smoking his pipe.

3. Is the saddest ? Jeremys death.

4. Is a passage or chapter that reflects or displays Winston Graham skills and abilities to their finest ? The duel with Monk Adderley the way it explores Rosss feelings, his determination to go through with it, his thoughts on mortality.

5. Is a passage or chapter that would make you unquestionably want to visit Cornwall, and where ? Thats difficult, as I only live twenty miles away and sometimes need to go down to Bodmin for work. But I think the many descriptions of the sea, in all its different moods, are the most attractive.

6. Is the most interesting true historical scene depicted in the books ? The stuff about how elections worked then are interesting to me so all the background context. The depiction of the elections in Truro, though fictionalised, are based on historical fact.

7. Is the most interesting true historical character in the books ?  Both Lords Basset and Boscowan their rivalry in the context of pocket boroughs.

8. Is the most interesting fictional character in the books ? Ross is the most interesting, because hes so complex mostly heroic, but with feet of clay. And Elizabeth a woman trapped by circumstances, unable to follow her heart.

9. Is your most favourite animal in the books ? Garrick! (Closely followed by Darkie and Ebb&Flow!)

10. Would be the most interesting chapter or chapters you feel could be the most suitable to be performed live on stage ?  The stagecoach robbery.

11. Would be your thoughts on hearing some or all the books slowly broadcast on radio ? I dont think Id be interested in that the books unfold so slowly that they could drag if not edited. And a voice would come between me and my images. Watching on TV, however, is so different that it doesnt matter.

12. a). Other non Poldark books by Winston Graham have you read ?

Memoirs of a Private Man, The Forgotten Story, Night Without Stars, The Green Flash,

 

      b). If you haven't read one yet then which book would you choose to start reading first and why ? I havent read Marnie yet will probably read that soon. 



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To get back to the books again who/what....

1. Is the most interesting scene or passage in all the books ?

2. Is the funniest ?

3. Is the saddest ?

4. Is a passage or chapter that reflects or displays Winston Graham skills and abilities to their finest ?

5. Is a passage or chapter that would make you unquestionably want to visit Cornwall, and where ?

6. Is the most interesting true historical scene depicted in the books ?

7. Is the most interesting true historical character in the books ?

8. Is the most interesting fictional character in the books ?

9. Is your most favourite animal in the books ?

10. Would be the most interesting chapter or chapters you feel could be the most suitable to be performed live on stage ?

11. Would be your thoughts on hearing some or all the books slowly broadcast on radio ?

12. a). Other non Poldark books by Winston Graham have you read ?

      b). If you haven't read one yet then which book would you choose to start reading first and why ?

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