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I could not comment on this topic without commenting on the producers of the 1975-77 series, as well.



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SusanneMcCarthy wrote:

I felt as if she was trying too hard to go for dramatic set-pieces in that final episode - perhaps being pressured to do that by the director? He'd mostly previously directed police dramas and Dr.Who. They forgot that Poldark is first-and-foremost a character-driven piece, a romance - they should have trusted their actors to inject the tension. 


 It is like she was trying to hard to modernize Demelza.



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I felt as if she was trying too hard to go for dramatic set-pieces in that final episode - perhaps being pressured to do that by the director? He'd mostly previously directed police dramas and Dr.Who. They forgot that Poldark is first-and-foremost a character-driven piece, a romance - they should have trusted their actors to inject the tension. 



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SusanneMcCarthy wrote:

Most of it I was OK with, but I would definitely have tackled the final episode of S2 differently.

I'd change the scene where he puts money in her hand - that seems out of character for him. Instead as WG has it, Ross suggests they buy things for the house, she agrees but listlessly.

After Ross's fight with George, I'd stay closer to WG's text. I'd have Demelza initially respond with concern and a little warmth - maybe even he tries to kiss her, but she draws back.

Then after the row about McNeil, maybe include the bit about him rejoining his regiment, Demelza sneers about him playing at soldiers. She packs up and goes to Verity. This is the point at which they both think she's leaving him for good. (Having her planning to leave him after Verity's speech about following your heart just doesn't work.)

In the conversation with Elizabeth I wouldn't have her say she's leaving him. I'd maybe put the steadfast and true speech in there, with "I wont be ruled by what he did." She leaves it up in the air whether she's going to go or stay. Elizabeth calls after her, "What are you going to do? Would you leave Ross?" but Demelza doesnt answer, just walks away. CUT!

Ross doesnt wait until he's almost signing the paper in front of his commanding officer - he just wouldn't do that. I'd have Ross in a hallway waiting his turn, the door opens and one soldier comes out. Show the desk through the open door, Ross moves towards the door then pauses: CUT!

And finally, I do like the scene when they ride away from Trenwith together - that really sets up for the reconciliation. But going back to her leaving him throws that away. In terms of both character and story line, it just doesn't work - she wouldn't have gone back to her father, she'd have been more concerned about Jeremy's feelings, and it jerks the narrative right at the point where it wants to transition smoothly into the beginnings of a reconciliation. Maybe there could be some dialogue about him rejoining his regiment because he thought she'd left. She says she's not certain she'll stay, she won't be second best then it goes into Ross's speech about why would you be?



-- Edited by SusanneMcCarthy on Sunday 23rd of April 2017 03:26:53 PM



-- Edited by SusanneMcCarthy on Sunday 23rd of April 2017 03:28:31 PM


 Susanne - I strongly agree with you about including the shopping trip to buy things for the house. That was a very important part of their beginning to repair the damage. I also agree that Demelza's intention to leave Ross is formed in the wrong place.



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Ross Poldark wrote:

Looking back if you had been Debbie Horsefield with the same BBC remit and limitations as she had at the beginning, what would you have kept, left out or added in Series I and II ?

And finally looking ahead Series III....?


 In season 1 I would have included the conversation between Elizabeth and Francis in the second part of the missing Chapter 6 to show that side of Elizabeth's character and what she really thought of Demelza. In series 2 I would have cut Demelza's visit to Elizabeth after May 9th and also the march on Trenwith. Instead I would have included Caroline and Dwight's stay at Christmas and given more time to the building of the start of a reconciliation as portrayed in the book.  I think I would like to reserve any thoughts of series 3 until I've seen it.



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Most of it I was OK with, but I would definitely have tackled the final episode of S2 differently.

I'd change the scene where he puts money in her hand - that seems out of character for him. Instead as WG has it, Ross suggests they buy things for the house, she agrees but listlessly.

After Ross's fight with George, I'd stay closer to WG's text. I'd have Demelza initially respond with concern and a little warmth - maybe even he tries to kiss her, but she draws back.

Then after the row about McNeil, maybe include the bit about him rejoining his regiment, Demelza sneers about him playing at soldiers. She packs up and goes to Verity. This is the point at which they both think she's leaving him for good. (Having her planning to leave him after Verity's speech about following your heart just doesn't work.)

In the conversation with Elizabeth I wouldn't have her say she's leaving him. I'd maybe put the steadfast and true speech in there, with "I wont be ruled by what he did." She leaves it up in the air whether she's going to go or stay. Elizabeth calls after her, "What are you going to do? Would you leave Ross?" but Demelza doesnt answer, just walks away. CUT!

Ross doesnt wait until he's almost signing the paper in front of his commanding officer - he just wouldn't do that. I'd have Ross in a hallway waiting his turn, the door opens and one soldier comes out. Show the desk through the open door, Ross moves towards the door then pauses: CUT!

And finally, I do like the scene when they ride away from Trenwith together - that really sets up for the reconciliation. But going back to her leaving him throws that away. In terms of both character and story line, it just doesn't work - she wouldn't have gone back to her father, she'd have been more concerned about Jeremy's feelings, and it jerks the narrative right at the point where it wants to transition smoothly into the beginnings of a reconciliation. Maybe there could be some dialogue about him rejoining his regiment because he thought she'd left. She says she's not certain she'll stay, she won't be second best then it goes into Ross's speech about why would you be?



-- Edited by SusanneMcCarthy on Sunday 23rd of April 2017 03:26:53 PM



-- Edited by SusanneMcCarthy on Sunday 23rd of April 2017 03:28:31 PM

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Looking back if you had been Debbie Horsefield with the same BBC remit and limitations as she had at the beginning, what would you have kept, left out or added in Series I and II ?

And finally looking ahead Series III....?



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