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I'm re-reading at the moment and am near the beginning of Demelza.  Personally I think that the Clive Francis characterization from the 70s BBC adaptation is much truer to the Francis in the books.  I've always felt rather sorry for him to be honest.  I feel that he is much more sure of himself and not as inadequate as he is played in the new adaptation.

 

Another thing which has struck me as strange with the new adaptation is the relationship between Demelza and Jud and Prudie.  There's a passage in Ross Poldark which states that Demelza was not in the hours more than three hours before Prudie took her under her wing.  Both of them are portrayed as being much more aggressive towards her than they are in the book.  The friendship between Demelza and Prudie is a strong one, which lasts right the way through the books as she continues to call on them, taking them money after they are dismissed by Ross.



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I agree that Francis' characterization in the new adaptation of Poldark is not as he is in the books and neither is his relationship with Charles. In the books Francis is a confident carefree young good looking man, in this production he comes across as an insecure trouble man and Charles is an overbearing disappointed father, that is always warning Francis' that his more charismatic cousin will come to steal his prize if he is not careful. I don't remember Francis relationship with Verity being quite so antagonistic and domineering, as it is being portrayed.

 

 

I have come across so many different interpretations on what Francis' personality was really like in the novels that it is almost difficult to keep up with them.



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I think that once Francis comes to terms with Elizabeth not loving him and accepting she loves Ross, he becomes much more likeable - more his real self again. The lovely things he says to Demelza in Warleggan just before he dies shows us how deeply he thinks about people and, at heart, isn't a snob.



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Yes, I've just started re-reading the books and am halfway through Ross Poldark.  Francis is just not right at all, in the books he seems much more confident and assured.  In fact, the only time so far his insecurity has surfaced has been the interaction between him and Elizabeth after Geoffrey Charles' funeral, when he is rebuffed by Elizabeth and brings up her actions towards Ross during the day.  However, it's not her regards for Ross which will prove troublesome for their furture happiness together...

On re-reading the books, the new adaptation has stayed much closer to them, some of the dialogue has been lifted straight from them.  However, I don't really understand why they added in the storyline about Uncle Charles offering Ross money to leave Cornwall.  I found it unnecessary and unrepresentative of their relationship.  What are everyone elses thoughts on this?



-- Edited by pint-of-mild on Wednesday 13th of January 2016 11:26:46 AM

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pint-of-mild wrote:

I'd like to jump in here, I agree, the characters of Elizabeth, George and Francis are not at all right in the new adaptation.

Especially Francis for me.  I always felt quite sorry for him in the books.  He got what he thought he wanted, only to be disappointed.  I felt that the 70s adaptation portrayed him in a much more empathetic light.  I don't feel that he's being played strongly enough in this new version...

What does everyone else think?


 I agree that Francis' characterization in the new adaptation of Poldark is not as he is in the books and neither is his relationship with Charles. In the books Francis is a confident carefree young good looking man, in this production he comes across as an insecure trouble man and Charles is an overbearing disappointed father, that is always warning Francis' that his more charismatic cousin will come to steal his prize if he is not careful. I don't remember Francis relationship with Verity being quite so antagonistic and domineering, as it is being portrayed.



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It's strange that so many claim that Elizabeth is a lot colder in the novel.  Yet, a literary scholar had complained that the 1970s series had made Elizabeth more colder and less likable than she was in Graham's novels . . . at least in the first series that aired in 1975.

 

So far, I don't have a problem with Francis.  The way so many have described his literary character seemed to match how he seemed in both "Jeremy Poldark" and "Warleggan".  And the recent series has not reached that point . . . at least not yet.

 

 

 As must as I dread seeing the "betrayal," it will at least resolve the issue for Ross. 

I would prefer if Ross had resolved his issue with Elizabeth in another way.  I have found it hard to condone how Ross "resolved" his issue with Elizabeth.  In fact, I dislike it . . . for Elizabeth's sake.



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I'd like to jump in here, I agree, the characters of Elizabeth, George and Francis are not at all right in the new adaptation.

Especially Francis for me.  I always felt quite sorry for him in the books.  He got what he thought he wanted, only to be disappointed.  I felt that the 70s adaptation portrayed him in a much more empathetic light.  I don't feel that he's being played strongly enough in this new version...

What does everyone else think?



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hi Janet



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Hi Janet and welcome glad you finally made it ! aww

I agree about the films too as I've always felt it will never be possible to transfer Poldark to the screen, his writing is far too rich, vivid and colourful always reminding me of those virtual reality helmets where you feel you're physically in the room or outdoors with all the characters. Having a pictorial memory helps too as imagination will always be the true cinema of the mind. Amazingly time after time able to pick up any book, open it at any page and you're still reading half an hour later, sometimes longer. Addiction doesn't even come close !

On the other hand as a really long running radio serial I think it would be excellent and why I keep meaning to buy a Poldark audio cassette one day....



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I'm very curious how the next series will unfold.  I agree with your characterizations.  Elizabeth was not warm in the books, and no friend of Demelza.  She had made it a point since at least Christmas of 1790 to become "ascendant" over Ross.  And that red dress.  I don't excuse Ross for his behavior; in fact, I have little patience for his immature indulgence in this flirtation.  There are many times I want to strangle him.  But Elizabeth doesn't give it a rest.  As must as I dread seeing the "betrayal," it will at least resolve the issue for Ross.  The new Poldark actually humanizes George - who would have thought that possible.



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Date: Dec 28 5:23 AM, 2015
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JanetMaison wrote:

Also, just want to say that I until I saw the Poldark on PBS this summer, I knew nothing about it.  Read all 12 books, multiple times.  Can't stomach the TV series in the 70s.  I'm spoiled.


 I understand that there are great deal of people who would feel the same way that you do Janet. I, however, am finding that now, that I have immerse myself in the Poldark world again, that I am not happy with the characterization of Elizabeth, Francis or George in the new adaptation of Poldark. I understand the reasoning for making Elizabeth appear warmer and so it follows, therefore that Francis becomes the unreasonable jealous husband, but George's aspiration to be like the genteel class, when in fact he quite despised them, I'm not sure I comprehend. George had no caring or empathy for anyone and his offering of condolence to Ross after Julia's death in the final episode of this new adaptation, was for me so completely out of character. I am not saying that I didn't enjoy the latest television production and although there are a great deal of things that  are an improvement to the 1970's adaptation, but with the exception of Demelza's character, the '70's characterization were closer to the books in a lot of ways. I am hopeful that these changes in Elizabeth, Francis and George, will be addressed in season two and that their true characters will be revealed.



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Date: Dec 28 2:54 AM, 2015
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Thank you, Mrs. Martin!



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Date: Dec 28 2:47 AM, 2015
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Hello Janet,

 

It is very rainy here in Vancouver, as well. Very interested in reading other peoples opinions and interpretations, look forward to reading yours.

 

Mrs. Martin



-- Edited by MrsMartin on Monday 28th of December 2015 06:41:44 AM



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Also, just want to say that I until I saw the Poldark on PBS this summer, I knew nothing about it.  Read all 12 books, multiple times.  Can't stomach the TV series in the 70s.  I'm spoiled.



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After reading your forum for years! I've really enjoyed the posts, opinions and interpretations.  Nobody crazy for Poldark in my "real" world.

Janet

(very rainy) Seattle, WA



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